Hi,
Please help me.
Im going to keep this short as possible.
I came across PMO when I was 15 and have been doing it until now, I’m 21. Its something which I am ashamed of and always felt guilty about although it never used to give me any issues and I always used to feel refreshed afterwards. Never had sex, virgin. I’m about 9 stones 1 lbs in weight.
Over the years I can tell that I got addicted and I tried several times to leave the P the M and the O but I always failed. I think the longest I got to was 15 days and the urge was crazy for me to resist. I always thought and knew I was doing something bad but I’d always been told at school that there is nothing wrong with PMO and that its good for you.
My normal frequency would be daily, to long edging sessions to release right at the end, I would waste hours going from video to video. Most days were once, occasionally 2 or 3 times in a day and sometimes none in a day but the last two were rare. During the first 4 years everything was fine. It’s just this last year of 2014 at which everything’s gone wrong. At this time my life was hectic, I was working hard on my business from home. University, assignments, my diet was extremely poor now that I think of it. I skipped breakfast or simply had nothing nutritional in my breakfast most days just a cup of tea if I did decide to have anything. Im bombarded by pressure from my parents and brothers to get a job etc. Now to the story:
Early 2014 I had a flight to catch and that morning I did a PMO with again no breakfast or simply rubbish foods, the pressure of getting to the airport etc. gave me what I now realise looking back my first taste of an anxiety/panic attack which lasted a few hours. I got over it quickly and I was running back to normal with the constant lifestyle and PMO.
Prior to the start of June I had exams and the poor lifestyle continued. Prior to my Exam in the morning as usual did a PMO which resulted in me almost running out of the exam which I now looking back at again was a result of PMO and panic and anxiety. I don’t know how but I managed to sit through the exam and ended up getting an A+ grade. My PMO and lifestyle continued after this and I had no issues and once again was back to normal. Looking back I should have taken these as crucial signs but I didn’t at the time. At no point in time did I think or care what caused this issue and simply put it down to nerves.
At this point I had been on holiday for a month and a half. Fast-forwarding until June of 2014; 2 weeks prior to restarting University. The PMO continued without any issues, looking back now I can see that my health started to decline as I got closer to what I call the crisis which took place in July of 2014. I had decided to go on a fast for a few days which didn’t include a PMO but on the fifth day in the morning I ended up PMO’ing. Later that night I had to go to hospital for no apparent reason. I had headache, low mood, dry skin, fatigue, shaking, hot and cold flashes, abdominal discomfort, my heart beat and BP was all over the place. I was told nothing was wrong and that it was dehydration. I was put on saline and was sent home. What I do notice looking at my blood work from that day is that my potassium was on the higher end and my sodium was quite low which made me thing about adrenal fatigue or Addison’s disease etc. but ill talk about that later. So this experience seemed to have increased my anxiety. But looking back it seemed that my body was constantly being drained of vital nutrients over time leading up to the event.
After returning from the hospital it took much longer for me to get my health back, and I didn’t PMO for about 3 weeks into uni and I was fatigued, tired and stressed. I happened to start feeling better abstaining from the PMO which at that time I again didn’t realise. Back to the next few PMO’s and that was it, extreme headaches, couldn’t move from my bedroom to my brothers room. Fatigue, eye floaters, brain fog, weak muscles, dry skin, nausea you name it. I ended up going to my doctor who checked for things like parasites, celiac disease. But didn’t find anything, he told me to come back but I didn’t end up going back, more on that later. When he told me they couldn’t find anything over the phone a few days later the severe anxiety set in because I didn’t know what was happening to me and that I would be this burnt-out for the rest of my life because nothing was getting better. I think at this stage maybe I did develop an anxiety problem caused from my poor health and worry that I wouldn’t be able to please a women. That night I did another PMO and another one right after and no sperm came out I was dry. A few hours later and it literally sent me into severe anxiety, insomnia, crying at night, anorexia (unable to eat), and decreased appetite, sex drive and libido had gone. The majority of symptoms lasted about a week and a half when I researched online and I came across YBOP and reditt etc. and it just made so much sense everything seemed to click and I thought rite I’ll do the reboot and I’ll be fine. It was 5 years of non-stop PMO, porn addiction, masturbation addiction all adding up. I used to PMO to any feeling I felt sad, happy, excited, to waste time from boredom etc.
I decided to reboot. I decided to lower all stress and since I was now back on holiday there was no university. I started having good breakfast, eggs, seeds, dates etc left all sugary foods, just improved my lifestyle on a whole and started sleeping earlier. Over the first reboot it made a huge difference.
I ended up doing roughly 90 days free from PMO cold turkey on my first go. The first 2 weeks of it I experience massive withdrawal symptoms, all the ones you can think of. It was horrible. I was in a massive flatline, no penis response, no morning erections. The symptoms gradually decreased and improved up until day 43 which I noticed a major change and I slowly started seeing morning erections and sensitivity in the penis. Depression had gone after about the 3rd week into it but the Severe Anxiety remained. Everything seemed to be getting better and I was feeling better and better as the days went by. At about days 50 or so the anxiety lifted off and I was back to my normal self with only very minor symptoms such as lethargy. Day 75 arrived when I had my first wet dream and I felt amazing after it. No anxiety no symptoms, everything had cleared and I experienced no post wet dream orgasm ejaculation symptoms. Every day I was having morning wood. I felt amazing. Back to normal. I continued the reboot for another 20 or so days I promised myself to continue the reboot and do no more PMO related activities but I was naive and somehow ended up back to edging which I did for about 11 days without orgasm just P & M. the edging was too intense and I gave in and orgasmed & ejaculated a huge amount whilst lying down edging to my phone in bed (something which I hadn’t done prior to those 11 days). The thing that triggered it was seeing news of a new pornstar on facebook. I felt fine after that orgasm but did feel guilty of letting myself relapse. I didn’t have symptoms so I slept well through the night. This first reboot did include lots of fantasies and long edging sessions towards the end so it wasn’t a pure reboot The following day I felt a little lethargic but I thought that’s fine none of the symptoms have returned. I was happy, I was back to normal, little did I know come 7pm when I started to have dinner, I was happily talking to a family member and then something in my brain flicked a switched and anxiety returned right there and then out of nowhere. I had to get up luckily I had eaten most of my food so nothing looked fishy to my family members the headaches returned and the lethargy, and low moods and the fluctuating energy levels. But this time no loss of appetite or insomnia. This time it wasn’t however as severe as the first time. But still very bad. The only time I had insomnia was the period I mentioned earlier prior to my first reboot. And some during the withdrawal phases of the first reboot.
As a result I started another reboot from the next morning and it has now been 25 days PMO free and this time I have eliminated any form of sexual thought as well as not looking at women on the street. The first 20 days were tough with anxiety, if there’s no anxiety then depressed mood, or fatigue, lethargy. But it’s taken much less time to start feeling a little bit better than the first reboot which I’m taking as a positive sign. I hope it all goes away and I’m thinking of going as long as I can this time without any form of sexual thought or activity.
What I have noticed over the last 150 days or so is that 95% of my anxiety always however tends to go away after 6pm and my energy levels drastically increase after that time. During the days it’s very tough and I feel fatigued and the energy levels are low, but after 6pm it’s like I get a second wind of energy and I feel fine. I also have noticed that I crave more salt. And I’m thirstier. In the early stages of the reboot I also noticed dryer skin. And I have dry skin patches behind my ear. Do you think this could be adrenal fatigue or insufficiency? Maybe my adrenals can no longer produce cortisol properly?
Also like to say that my hair has gradually started to fall out from the very first incident and is very brittle.
I also noticed that over the last year prior to all this started I notice I have a varicocele on my left testicle, it’s not too big but it is visible and you can feel it when the scrotum is soft and warm. I did read somewhere that a varicocele can cause the testicle to overheat which results in low testosterone and poor sperm production, thus resulting in symptoms similar to the ones I experienced. Could this be causing problems me anxiety after orgasm or ejaculation? Maybe testosterone drops too low?
I have not taken any supplements and am not sure if I should as I’m not a fan of popping pills etc. I need to fix my body because I want to get married soon. I don’t have problems with erections at the moment it’s just when I ejaculate or orgasm that creates issues of mainly anxiety. I feel so bad that ive ruined my body and the thought of this makes me feel down. Because of my issues a girl I used to like alot just got married to someone else and that’s put even more pressure on me and I feel so down and bad about this. This has just made things worse. I fear I can’t get a girl now because I won’t be able to satisfy her but my parents will push me to get married in about a year or maybe 2 years’ time.
I also notice that when I last PMO’d and times before that towards the latter years I get a rush of adrenaline similar to when you get frightened rather than a pleasure feeling when I look at PMO. Do you think looking at porn and over masturbation can cause these issues because it’s different from normal sex?
I haven’t had real sex so don’t know if I would have symptoms after that. Same goes for masturbation without porn, haven’t tried that either. And when I do orgasm/ejaculate through masturbation it’s normally after a long edging session. And why it is that wet dreams don’t give me any symptoms.
Sorry for such a long story:
I know I have asked some questions above but I have tried to summarise them below:
1. Is this sexual exhaustion where my nervous systems are so battered from all the PMO?
2. How do I regain the ability to have no symptoms a day after ejaculation which last so long? In other words how to I go back to being normal? (Im sure if I did more O’s at once the symptoms would be much more severe)
3. Should I go to the doctor again? I have resisted as he will probably prescribe me SSRI’s or something which will not solve the problem.
4. Why is there no symptoms after a wet dream but only when I PMO?
5. Should I have my bloods done to see if there are any deficiencies?
6. Is my varicocele and low testosterone a possible cause?
7. Could I have adrenal fatigue, Addison’s disease adrenal insufficiency or some sort of thyroid problem? Perhaps the adrenals are being pushed to their limits and can’t work properly from so much stress caused to them over time? (thyroid problems run in my family)
8. If in the first reboot I noticed so much improvement what do you advise?
9. Are there any similar conditions to mine?
10. Have people recovered?
Please help
From an extremely exhausted person. You are the first person I am telling, I’m struggling
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MSG2
Hi,
Simple question.
SHORT STORY:
1. I kept masturbating daily, sometimes a few more times a day, max probably 3 times a day but that’s very rare.
2. Always to porn usually, sometimes no porn, death-grip, long edging sessions that went maybe a few hours sometimes, normally when Id wake up in the morning or before I went to sleep.
3. Did it for 5 years. Tastes started at plain vanilla stuff and over the years got more intense. Some videos stopped appealing to me towards the end of the 5 year period. I always looked for more arousing stuff.
4. Searching for videos and waking up and thinking lets have a porn session use to give me a massive adrenaline rush always.
5. Orgasm/Ejaculation never used to give me any issues 6. Symptoms gradually crept up on me without me noticing after each orgasm/ejaculation/porn session.
7. for about 2 months symptoms got worse and worse after each PMO.
8. Then one day I did as usual another PMO and this time got severe anxiety, extreme fatigue, headaches, brain-fog, changing moods, social anxiety, higher more trembly voice, insomnia, no appetite, weak muscles, little bits of depression, all symptoms of adrenal fatigue negative thoughts started entering my head which never used to like how will I get a job, how will I get a girl, how am I gonna live life etc etc I never used to think stuff like this but they just started all of a sudden.
9. Read YBOP so thought I need to reboot. so did cold turkey 90 days off PMO. FELT AMAZING, a lot of the symptoms gone in that time.
10. Thought I was cured, started edging for 10 days, 11th day PMO’d and bam all symptoms returned at full force the following day. (not during or after orgasm, the symptoms start the following day)
11. Now in second reboot (its now 65 days into second reboot have noticed much faster to start recovering and for the symptoms to go away compared with the first reboot about 25 days or so compared to some 70 days in the first reboot) in saying this the fatigue and headaches are still there and I notice I always seem to feel better during the evening for some reason. my headaches go away and I feel like normal at night time.
Questions:
What is cause of these symptoms?
Is this Sexual Exhaustion from too much orgasm ejaculation, overstimulation and inability for the body to cope with such high demands?
HOW DO I FIX MYSELF?
I am taking a supplements, Organic Greens Super Food that has lots of good stuff in it herbs etc in the morning. Amino Acid complex during mid day, sometimes fish oil. sometimes protein shakes, a multivitamin at night time. What are your thoughts on this? I have changed the lifestyle, eliminated porn forever and started being more positive.
please reply me, im struggling to cope with the thought that I will never be able to have an orgasm again without getting such severe symptoms.
please help me fix this, im so worried
ur thoughts are greatly appreciated
I already asked once but I received no reply from you
ANSWER
I apologize for the late reply. I have found the first email and will attach it to the case. So, let’s get to it straight away:
My normal frequency would be daily, to long edging sessions to release right at the end, I would waste hours going from video to video. Most days were once, occasionally 2 or 3 times in a day and sometimes none in a day but the last two were rare. During the first 4 years everything was fine. It’s just this last year of 2014 at which everything’s gone wrong.
Hour long edging sessions can be extremely taxing on one’s neuroendoctine balance and proper organism functioning. Edging, as a practice, is definitely a more harmful variation of conventional masturbation. I would say that it is not uncommon to experience similar severity of the symptoms after years of consistent edging.
At this time my life was hectic, I was working hard on my business from home. University, assignments, my diet was extremely poor now that I think of it. I skipped breakfast or simply had nothing nutritional in my breakfast most days just a cup of tea if I did decide to have anything. Im bombarded by pressure from my parents and brothers to get a job etc.
External pressure and stress can definitely be a contributing factor.
Early 2014 I had a flight to catch and that morning I did a PMO with again no breakfast or simply rubbish foods, the pressure of getting to the airport etc. gave me what I now realise looking back my first taste of an anxiety/panic attack which lasted a few hours. I got over it quickly and I was running back to normal with the constant lifestyle and PMO.
As you have noticed yourself then, increased sympathetic response to even minor triggers is quite common and usually very related to sexual exhaustion (in cases where similar lifestyle is observed).
Later that night I had to go to hospital for no apparent reason. I had headache, low mood, dry skin, fatigue, shaking, hot and cold flashes, abdominal discomfort, my heart beat and BP was all over the place.
Similar symptoms are almost definitely related to improper serotonin-GABA nervous modulation on excitatory and inflammatory response. Excessive sympathetic activity and inflammation will basically lead to all of the described symptoms and more. I will additionally expand on the phenomenon down my post.
That night I did another PMO and another one right after and no sperm came out I was dry. A few hours later and it literally sent me into severe anxiety, insomnia, crying at night, anorexia (unable to eat), and decreased appetite, sex drive and libido had gone. The majority of symptoms lasted about a week and a half.
It definitely sounds like a moderate to severe case of sexual exhaustion.
I ended up doing roughly 90 days free from PMO cold turkey on my first go. The first 2 weeks of it I experience massive withdrawal symptoms, all the ones you can think of. It was horrible. I was in a massive flatline, no penis response, no morning erections.
You definitely did well to endure 90 days and also avoided going over the “three month mark” I’ve mentioned in some of my previous answers as the safe limit for such. The flatline was to be expected and served to provide you with an accurate representation of the actual state of your condition.
The thing that triggered it was seeing news of a new pornstar on facebook.
The unfortunate fact is that addiction is not so easily removed from one’s brain. It can stay dormant for months or even years, waiting for a suitable trigger to reveal itself.
I was happily talking to a family member and then something in my brain flicked a switched and anxiety returned right there and then out of nowhere.
A bit uncommon I must say, not because of the suddenty of its appearance but because of the complete lack of any supporting symptoms.
What I have noticed over the last 150 days or so is that 95% of my anxiety always however tends to go away after 6pm and my energy levels drastically increase after that time. During the days it’s very tough and I feel fatigued and the energy levels are low, but after 6pm it’s like I get a second wind of energy and I feel fine.
This is actually very common with people who experience any form of anxiety disorder. It is most likely related to the way our bodies utilize certain neurostransmitters (in particular serotonin) during the natural circadian rhythm. During the evenings and at night the body becomes much more reliant on melatonin for its functioning, and serotonin abnormalities (such as low levels or certain receptor alterations) are less prone to be detected while under “lighter load”.
Do you think this could be adrenal fatigue or insufficiency? Maybe my adrenals can no longer produce cortisol properly?
Certain cortisol abnormalities are to be expected but they are usually a result of the excessive sympathetic functioning for increased anxiety, stress, and inflammation. Hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal-testicular axis is usually severely affected with sexual exhaustion, so there’s the possibility of suffering from a mild manifestation of such. However, taking in account the time needed to develop and your age, I would not suspect any permanent or severe abnormalities as of yet.
I did read somewhere that a varicocele can cause the testicle to overheat which results in low testosterone and poor sperm production, thus resulting in symptoms similar to the ones I experienced. Could this be causing problems me anxiety after orgasm or ejaculation? Maybe testosterone drops too low?
It is true. Patients with varicocele will definitely experience not only lowered testosterone but lowered androgens as a whole. It’s still a controversial subject, as in theory those levels are balanced by a negative feedback mechanism, meaning that the body will produce until it reaches the required levels (even if one testicle is present it should work double for instance). Of course, this theory has severe cracks in its viability, as for instance, it won’t explain the evolutionary need of testicles being outside the body if that ultimately won’t have any impact on androgens levels.
There are some studies pointing out numerous abnormalities happening during testicular overheating, partially preventing the body from utilizing testicular potential regardless of its sheer load input.
The reality is that most of the patients with varicocele do suffer from lowered androgen levels.
Androgens levels in general are known to be related to feelings of courage and calmness. A pretty straightforward indicator is the severely increased predominance of anxiety disorders in females, rather than males.
And to answer your question in a more straightforward manner – yes, this is definitely contributing to your anxiety.
I also notice that when I last PMO’d and times before that towards the latter years I get a rush of adrenaline similar to when you get frightened rather than a pleasure feeling when I look at PMO. Do you think looking at porn and over masturbation can cause these issues because it’s different from normal sex?
You will get those with normal sex too, predominantly through dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversions and increased demands on your cardiovascular system. The difference is that it is much more aggressive in its occurrence in people who have weakened modulation on serotonin-GABA nervous modulation (masturbation or not). Artery constriction can make it even worse.
1. Is this sexual exhaustion where my nervous systems are so battered from all the PMO?
The symptoms are definitely indicative of a moderate to severe stage of sexual exhaustion. PMO Addiction combined with individual genetic makeup and lifestyle can definitely lead to it.
2. How do I regain the ability to have no symptoms a day after ejaculation which last so long? In other words how to I go back to being normal? (Im sure if I did more O’s at once the symptoms would be much more severe).
You were generally on the right track. The way to go is to transform the negative neuroplasticity you’ve developed over the years into a positive one. The interneuronal connections have been developed and ordered to process information in a specific manner and it usually takes much conscious effort into rewiring them to induce the desired response.
3. Should I go to the doctor again? I have resisted as he will probably prescribe me SSRI’s or something which will not solve the problem.
It depends on the individual specialist. However, based on the symptoms you’ve described you are very correct in your expectation. I would strongly advise against any SSRIs / SNRIs as they can worsen the condition even further. Be sure to check: https://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/antidepressants-and-sexual-function .
4. Why is there no symptoms after a wet dream but only when I PMO?
Nocturnal emissions are both shorter and notably less intensive as far as neuroendocrine load goes. They are also well timed with hGH / androgen spikes.
That being said, some people would still observe negative side effects and experience slower recovery (not nearly as bad as from PMO, though), especially if the emissions are excitatory / inflammatory in nature.
5. Should I have my bloods done to see if there are any deficiencies?
Similar generalized tests are usually quite ineffective in detecting the imbalanced state through the inability to monitor neurotransmitter levels in the brain, the wide range of acceptable results, and the flat ratio of hormone-neurohormone-neurotransmitter interactions monitored.
6. Is my varicocele and low testosterone a possible cause?
It’s definitely a contributing factor.
7. Could I have adrenal fatigue, Addison’s disease adrenal insufficiency or some sort of thyroid problem? Perhaps the adrenals are being pushed to their limits and can’t work properly from so much stress caused to them over time? (thyroid problems run in my family).
It is possible. However, it is not likely. And even so – the root issue is probably not the thyroid or adrenals. Naturally, the statement would be true only if you’ve not reached a breaking point, which is still unlikely since you’ve managed to restore quite a bit of your proper organism functioning for 90 days.
8. If in the first reboot I noticed so much improvement what do you advise?
The obvious suggestion would be to continue with what has proven to be of assistance. I will mention a couple of suggestions at the end of the post, though.
9. Are there any similar conditions to mine?
Yes, I’ve seen quite a few very similar cases.
10. Have people recovered?
They have. There are some useful practices that have worked well for almost all of the similar cases, even if each has its own minor individual differences.
Questions:
What is cause of these symptoms?
Is this Sexual Exhaustion from too much orgasm ejaculation, overstimulation and inability for the body to cope with such high demands?
It’s usually caused by a combination of factors, most of them related to self-abusing pattern of activities, individual gene expression, and general lifestyle. Let me mention some of the causes for your symptoms:
* Excessive masturbation usually leads to imbalances in acetylcholine, serotonin, dopamine, GABA levels and their respective receptor count, which in turn leads to a wide set of symptoms. However, one of the most notable consequences is the impaired serotonin-GABA nervous control on neuronal activity and excitatory / inflammatory response. As a result, excessive cortisol, prostaglandin E2, and other inflammatory factors are observed in blood, tissues, and brain. This creates a negative neuroplasticity extremely fast since excitatory factors have always played a part and been important for behavioral modulation in times of acute external stressor exposure.
* Artery constriction for increased inflammation and lessened blood flow to tissues.
* Adrenal gland adjustments to chronically create more stress and inflammatory hormones, such as cortisol and epinephrine, at the expense of DHEA and other androgens. This is closely related to the negative neuroplasticity loop I mentioned.
* The lowered androgens as a result of the varicocele you mentioned.
* The increased levels of cortisol, prostaglandin E2, norepinephrine, epinephrine, and especially prolactin to negatively affect the levels of GnRH, LH and FSH, and together with the arterial inflammation and constriction kill testicular function as well as hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal-testicular axis’ proper functioning. Matters only get worse by the possibility of your testicles not functioning at their full potential from the start due to the mentioned varicocele. Less androgens to modulate inflammatory response, testicular insulin resistance, energy levels, tissue and testicular health, hormonal conversions, and neurotransmitter homeostasis, will result in even more vicious cycle of inflammation to suppress them even further through low dopamine levels and chronically heightened prolactin.
HOW DO I FIX MYSELF?
I am taking a supplements, Organic Greens Super Food that has lots of good stuff in it herbs etc in the morning. Amino Acid complex during mid day, sometimes fish oil. sometimes protein shakes, a multivitamin at night time. What are your thoughts on this? I have changed the lifestyle, eliminated porn forever and started being more positive.”
You’re definitely on the right track there. However, you’ve missed addressing the mentioned serotonin-GABA nervous modulation, which is usually of extreme importance. Rewriting a negative neuroplasticity usually takes time and is a tricky thing to do if one is unaware of what he’s doing. It can support itself through feedback reactions so ideally you’d have to address each and every issue simultaneously. That’s why just a random set of supplements frequently prove ineffective.
There are some general things and practices you should consider. Such as:
* Exercise
Running is very beneficial for Nitric Oxide-hGH boosts, as well as for improved neurogenesis.
* Proper diet.
Much fiber, fruits, avoid milk with prostaglandin E2 analogs, avoid empty calories and much red meat.
* Negative ion exposure
The general rule is wherever there is water, there are negative ions: rivers, lakes, oceans and ponds, even your own shower.
* Massages
Similar practices definitely have a positive effect on local inflammatory processes and proper blood circulation restoration.
* PMO discontinuation
It’s definitely a good thing that you’re already on it. You’ll need to discontinue sexual activities for 1 to 2 months (several times if you have to) and then limit masturbation as well as other similar in nature activities to 1-3 times a week for 3 to 5 months.
Additionally, edging has to be completely discontinued.
* Healing visualization and meditation
Here particularly useful will be https://yourhealingmind.org , as guided imagery frequently produces results even beyond conventional medical expectations.
Also, a combination of Alpha-Amino, Multi-Alpha, 5HTP-Nettle (should be gradually discontinued 3rd to 4th month), GRB6-GABA (should be gradually discontinued 3rd to 4th month), Alpha-HGH, and Ultra-Purified-FishOil for the specific case, will improve nervous and endocrine functioning, stabilize acetylcholine, serotonin, dopamine, GABA levels, aid hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal-testicular axis proper functioning, restore proper serotonin-GABA nervous modulation on excitatory and inflammatory response, increase androgens, increase elasticity prostaglandin E1 E3 and Nitric Oxide, alter numerous gene expressions, and eventually rewrite the negative neuroplasticity developed.
Of course, you did mention that you are taking a similar combination so if you have found that it works for you I will suggest just adding L-Tryptophan or 5HTP-Nettle and GRB6-GABA.
Note that the primary goal for the first 3 to 4 months is to restore the proper acetylcholine-dopamine-serotonin-GABA levels / ratio and modulation on inflammatory and excitatory response, as well as proper dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversions and dopamine-prolactin ratio. You would then need to monitor your overall stress levels (both physical and mental) for some months to make sure you’re keeping the neuroplasticity that has been developed.
Please, keep me updated on the case.
UPDATE
Hi Dr Richards,
thank you for the reply. just a quick note, im a little confused with the supplementation guide you suggest.
currently im taking the following supplements:
1. MORNING organic superfood which consists of the following ingredients:
(these are quite small in dosage)
Organic Spirulina, Organic Apple Powder, Organic Chlorella Powder, Organic Alfalfa Powder, Organic Wheatgrass Powder, Organic Barley Leaf Powder, Acerola Fruit Extract, Carica Papaya Powder, Broccoli Powder, Pineapple Fruit Juice Extract, Bilberry Fresh Fruit Extract, Rosehip Beet Powder, Red Beet Powder, Carrot Root Powder, Spinach Leaf Powder, Licorice Root Powder, Wolfberry (Goji) Fruit Extract, Hawthorne Fruit Extract, Kelp Whole Plant Powder, Citric Acid, RS Alpha Lipoic Acid, Astragalus Root Extract, Grape Seed Extract, Green Tea Extract, Cocoa Bean Polyphenol Extract, Rosemary Leaf Extract, Beta Glucans, Reishi Mushroom Powder, Shiitake Mushroom Powder, Resveratrol, Citrus Bioflavanoid Extract, Vitamin C, Calcium, Potassium, Vitamin E, Magnesium, Vitamin B3, Silica, Zinc, Co-Enzyme Q-10, Vitamin B5, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B3, Pro Vitamin A, Manganese, Vitamin B7, Vitamin B9, Copper, Selenium, Vitamin B12, Chromium, Vitamin D2, Rice Bran Powder, Milk Thistle Extract, Dandelion Whole Plant Extract, Burdock Root Extract, Globe Artichoke Extract, Inulin (FOS prebiotics), Ginger Rhizome Powder, Bromelain, Slippery Elm Bark Powder, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Bifidobacterium Bifidum, Papain (from Carica , Papaya and Pineapple), Siberian Ginseng Extract, Lecithin (95% phosphatides), Organic Flaxseed Powder, Gotu Kola Extract, Withania Somnifera (Ashwaganda), 100% Vital Pea Protein Isolate, All Natural Base: Papaya, Broccoli, Carrot, Pineapple, Natural Vanilla Flavour, Natural Pineapple Flavour, Thaumatin, Stevia, Monk Fruit and Xanthan Gum.
2. PRE LUNCH – PURIFIED FISH OIL
Each 5ml Provides:
•EPA 825mg
•DHA 550mg
•Other Omega-3s 350mg
•Oleic Acid (Omega-9) 290mg
•Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) 30IU
3. ANYTIME – Protein Shake –
contains:
—-11 grams of Essential Amino Acids (EAA’s):
Tryptophan, Valine, Threonine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Phenylalanine, Methionine
—-7.7 grams of Conditionally Essential Amino Acids (CAA’s):
Arginine, Cystine, Tyrosine, Histidine, Proline, Glutamine and Glutamic Acid
—-5.5 grams of Non Essential Amino Acids (NAA’s):
Aspartic Acid, Serine, Glycine, Alanine
3. AFTERNOON – Amino Complex
Contains:
L-Lysine (as L-Lysine HCI) 75mg
L-Histidine 75mg
L-Isoleucine 75mg
L-Leucine 75mg
L-Methionine 75mg
L-Phenylalanine 75mg
L-Threonine 75mg
L-Valine 75mg
Hydroxypropylmethyl cellulose, microcrystalline cellulose, hydroxypropyl cellulose, magnesium stearate, cellulose gum.
4. Before Bed – Multi Vitamin containing:
Vitamin A (from retinol acetate) (300mcg)1000IU
Vitamin B1 (from thiamine hydrochloride)10mg
Vitamin B2 (riboflavin)10mg
Vitamin B3 (nicotinamide)50mg
Vitamin B5 (from calcium pantothenate)40mg
Vitamin B6 (from pyridoxine hydrochloride)20mg
Vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin)25mcg
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) 250mg
Vitamin C (calcium ascorbate)250mg
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol)10mcg
Vitamin E (from d-alpha-tocopherol acetate)100mg
Betaine (from betaine hydrochloride)50mg
Biotin50mcg
Boron (from boron pentahydrate)1mg
Calcium (from calcium lactate)100mg
Choline (from choline bitartrate)25mg
Chromium (from chromium amino acid chelate)100mcg
Citric Acid 200mg
Citrus Bioflavonoid Complex 200mg
Co-enzyme Q105mg
Copper (from copper gluconate) 500mcg
Folic Acid 150mcg
Inositol 25mg
Iodine (from potassium iodide)100mcg
Iron (from ferrous fumarate)1mg
L-Glutamine25mg
Magnesium (from magnesium carbonate)50mg
Manganese (from manganese amino acid chelate)2mg
Molybdenum (from molybdenum amino acid chelate)50mcg
PABA (para amino benzoic acid)15mg
Potassium (from potassium gluconate)20mg
Selenium (from selenium methionine)75mcg
Zinc (from zinc amino acid chelate) 7.5mg
I also have 5-HTP (5-Hydroxy-L-Tryptophan) 50mg available but im not too sure if I should use it because I have read that it can lower dopamine, is nettle a necessity with the 5-htp as mine doesn’t include nettle.
what do you suggest? also what other supplements do you recommend?
how much dosage of GABA do I require?
also is this order of taking the supplements okay. if you can advise when to take each supplement that would be great.
also I have improved the diet immensely to ensure im eating healthy foods.
Look forward to your reply.
UPDATE
Hi Mark,
quick update: its now about day 71 into my second reboot and im feeling a lot better. nearly 98% of my anxiety is gone. and a lot of the other symptoms are also gone.
few questions:
1. in my country GABA is illegal so what can I consume in stead of this??
2. also when should I consider trying a very quick masturbation again? is it too early or should I wait until day 120?
Thanks so much for all your help.. I have sent you a previous message with information in regards to what supplements I am taking but you haven’t replied that one yet. so if you could kindly answer them it would be much appreciated. I appreciate all your help your one person who keeps me going in this tough time in my life.
ANSWER
It’s a pleasure. I apologise for the late reply. Let’s get straight to it:
Thank you for being so thorough with the report. Let me say that your supplementation definitely seems very adequate and on point, with the exception I mentioned in my previous post. Additional and balanced 5HTP-Nettle and a “Picamilon” quality GABA supplementation (where the GABA has been combined with Niacin to pass the Blood–brain barrier) are essential to serotonin-GABA nervous modulation on inflammatory / excitatory response.
I also have 5-HTP (5-Hydroxy-L-Tryptophan) 50mg available but im not too sure if I should use it because I have read that it can lower dopamine
It is true, however, the effect is very mild at best and is basically required to diminish any excessive inflammatory / excitatory response, excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversions, and to prevent “abstinence anxiety” caused by such on day 30 and above. Sexual activities discontinuation will actually increase dopamine above its usual range, even with heavy 5HTP supplementation.
is nettle a necessity with the 5-htp as mine doesn’t include nettle.
I won’t go as far as saying that it is absolutely necessary but it adds a very positive and thought out effect to the mix by addressing numerous inflammatory, anaemia, hair-loss, benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), osteoarthritis, and digestive related problems in a quite effective manner.
how much dosage of GABA do I require?
If it’s not combined with niacin, I won’t recommend taking any since you’d have to rely on particularly large numbers to be somewhat effective. Standard GRB6-7-GABA dosage applies otherwise.
also is this order of taking the supplements okay. if you can advise when to take each supplement that would be great.
It’s usually highly individual. You may want to experiment with those and just go for whatever you feel like works best.
1. in my country GABA is illegal so what can I consume instead of this??
That’s quite unfortunate. I guess you’d have to rely just on GABA promoting foods, which is usually not quite as effective.
Also when should I consider trying a very quick masturbation again? is it too early or should I wait until day 120?
I won’t recommend going over 90 days (as quite a few patients report related side effects), so it’s certainly not too soon. Anywhere in between days 60 to 90 would be ideal.
Please, keep me updated on the case.
Glad if I could help!